Interview with Dr. Ron Thomson

December 23, 2024 by
Interview with Dr. Ron Thomson
Loïs Talagrand

Summary

In this conversation, Dr. Ron Thomson, a professor in Applied Linguistics, discusses the intricacies of pronunciation and fluency in language learning. He emphasizes the importance of intelligibility over native-like pronunciation, especially for adult learners. The conversation explores effective methods for improving pronunciation, including high variability phonetic training, and the critical role of feedback in the learning process. Dr. Thomson also addresses the debate between learning sounds in isolation versus within words, providing insights from his research. In this conversation, Loïs Talagrand and Ron Thomson delve into the intricacies of language learning, focusing on the significance of pronunciation, fluency, and vocabulary. They discuss how pronunciation practice is essential for mastering a language, the distinction between fluency and proficiency, and the strategies that can enhance fluency in speaking and listening. The conversation emphasizes the critical role of vocabulary in language acquisition and its impact on pronunciation and fluency development.

Takeaways

  • Achieving perfect native-like pronunciation as an adult is unlikely. However, the pronunciation errors may be imperceptible in a spontaneous conversation.
  • Intelligibility should be the primary goal.
  • High variability phonetic training is a science-based approach to improving one's pronunciation.
  • Multiple phonetic environments enhance learning effectiveness.
  • Immediate (targeted) feedback is crucial for pronunciation improvement.
  • Technology currently lacks the accuracy needed for effective targeted feedback.
  • Learning sounds in isolation can lead to better overall pronunciation. But it is insufficient.
  • Phonetic perception skills can aid in learning new words.
  • Cognitive competition between meaning and phonetic form hinders learning.
  • Understanding the context of pronunciation is vital for effective communication. There is value in working on individual sounds, but practicing saying words is essential.
  • Bad pronunciation patterns can be established and are hard to correct later.
  • A silent period can benefit pronunciation, especially for language learners. Dr. Thomson gave an example of a six-month silent period.
  • Perception of sounds can be improved quickly with targeted training.
  • Fluency is often confused with proficiency; they are distinct concepts.
  • Fluency involves cognitive skills and can be measured through speech rate and pauses.
  • Listening comprehension is crucial for fluency; exposure to natural speech is key.
  • Time pressure in speaking tasks can enhance fluency development. Dr. Thomson recommends taking a look at the 4-3-2 activity described by Paul Nation and Jonathan Newton.
  • Vocabulary is foundational for language learning and fluency.
  • Improving vocabulary can enhance phonological working memory in a second language.

Interview with Dr. Ron Thomson
Loïs Talagrand December 23, 2024
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